Another Look at Soy
The latest issue of the journal Nutrition and Cancer reports on a study by Korean researchers showing a protective effect of soy on the risk of developing breast cancer.
If you've read my book, "The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth" you know that I've not been a huge fan of soy. And if you've read any of the writings of Sally Fallon and Mary Enig ("The Ploy of Soy") or the book, "The Whole Soy Story: The dark side of America's favorite health food" by Kalia Daniels, PhD, CCN, you probably know why.
Yet studies like this new one continue to pop up and can't be responsibly ignored. So I took some time to "re-evaluate" the whole soy controversy and would like to share some of my thoughts about it.
First, the new study. Researchers at Hanyang University in Seoul, Korea compared 362 women diagnosed with breast cancer with an equal number of healthy women matched for age and menopausal status. Participants were interviewed concerning their diets, and total soy protein intake was used as a measure of total soy food consumption.
High soy protein intake was associated with a reduced risk of breast cancer. The researchers divided the women into five tiers depending on their soy consumption. Premenopausal women who were in the highest 20% for consumption of soy protein had a 61 percent lower adjusted risk of breast cancer compared with those in the lowest 20% of consumption. For postmenopausal women, those consuming the highest soy protein intake had a 78% lower risk.
But here's the thing- look at the kind of soy they were consuming. "Tofu, soybean paste, boiled soybeans and soy milk". This study was done in Korea. I've often said that the type of soy they consume in Asian countries is considerably different than the soy junk food we consume over here, a point that has been made by Fallon, Enig and Daniel many times.
Fact is, fermented soy is a whole different story, and even those who are "anti-soy" agree that this can be good stuff.
But that's a far cry from the stuff that lines the "health food" section of your local supermarket- soy products, soy chips, soy derivatives, soy concentrates, soybean oil and soy ice cream. These food products have little in common with traditionally fermented soy foods from the whole bean like tempeh, miso and the like.
Coincidentally, an excellent and well-researched article in this month's Townsend Newsletter for Doctors and Patients asks- and attempts to answer- the question "why the conflicting research on soy?" The article is detailed and well-researched and summing it up in a couple of sentences doesn't do it justice.
But here's the bottom line: All soy products are very far from equal.
As the Townsend Newsletter article points out, epidemiological studies examining the relationship between soy intake and health outcomes "have involved Asian populations and therefore evaluated the intake of traditional fermented foods such as tofu and other soy products that are derived from whole or dehulled soybeans". This is a far cry from many of the studies that use soy concentrates, soy isolates, isolated isoflavone mixtures or pure genisten.
"There are dozens of soy products used for research, and they differ markedly in micro (isoflavone, saponin, phytic acid, phytosterol, vitamin and mineral content) and macro (protein, fat and carbohydrate) content" says the author, Walter Wainright.
He's absolutely right.
This newsletter item isn't an attempt to resolve the soy controversy, which is complicated and fueled by partisanship and passion on both sides. I think the point here is that soy isn't always "bad" and it certainly isn't always "good". Like everything else in food and supplements, the source and quality and nature of the product is a huge determinant when it comes to sorting out its effects.
Grass-fed meat isn't the same as ballpark hot dogs- and "soy isolate" isn't the same thing as fermented miso. In an era when we tend to reduce complex issues to manageable sound bites ("soy is good" "soy is bad") it's good to remember that all soy products are not created equal.
If you've read my book, "The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth" you know that I've not been a huge fan of soy. And if you've read any of the writings of Sally Fallon and Mary Enig ("The Ploy of Soy") or the book, "The Whole Soy Story: The dark side of America's favorite health food" by Kalia Daniels, PhD, CCN, you probably know why.
Yet studies like this new one continue to pop up and can't be responsibly ignored. So I took some time to "re-evaluate" the whole soy controversy and would like to share some of my thoughts about it.
First, the new study. Researchers at Hanyang University in Seoul, Korea compared 362 women diagnosed with breast cancer with an equal number of healthy women matched for age and menopausal status. Participants were interviewed concerning their diets, and total soy protein intake was used as a measure of total soy food consumption.
High soy protein intake was associated with a reduced risk of breast cancer. The researchers divided the women into five tiers depending on their soy consumption. Premenopausal women who were in the highest 20% for consumption of soy protein had a 61 percent lower adjusted risk of breast cancer compared with those in the lowest 20% of consumption. For postmenopausal women, those consuming the highest soy protein intake had a 78% lower risk.
But here's the thing- look at the kind of soy they were consuming. "Tofu, soybean paste, boiled soybeans and soy milk". This study was done in Korea. I've often said that the type of soy they consume in Asian countries is considerably different than the soy junk food we consume over here, a point that has been made by Fallon, Enig and Daniel many times.
Fact is, fermented soy is a whole different story, and even those who are "anti-soy" agree that this can be good stuff.
But that's a far cry from the stuff that lines the "health food" section of your local supermarket- soy products, soy chips, soy derivatives, soy concentrates, soybean oil and soy ice cream. These food products have little in common with traditionally fermented soy foods from the whole bean like tempeh, miso and the like.
Coincidentally, an excellent and well-researched article in this month's Townsend Newsletter for Doctors and Patients asks- and attempts to answer- the question "why the conflicting research on soy?" The article is detailed and well-researched and summing it up in a couple of sentences doesn't do it justice.
But here's the bottom line: All soy products are very far from equal.
As the Townsend Newsletter article points out, epidemiological studies examining the relationship between soy intake and health outcomes "have involved Asian populations and therefore evaluated the intake of traditional fermented foods such as tofu and other soy products that are derived from whole or dehulled soybeans". This is a far cry from many of the studies that use soy concentrates, soy isolates, isolated isoflavone mixtures or pure genisten.
"There are dozens of soy products used for research, and they differ markedly in micro (isoflavone, saponin, phytic acid, phytosterol, vitamin and mineral content) and macro (protein, fat and carbohydrate) content" says the author, Walter Wainright.
He's absolutely right.
This newsletter item isn't an attempt to resolve the soy controversy, which is complicated and fueled by partisanship and passion on both sides. I think the point here is that soy isn't always "bad" and it certainly isn't always "good". Like everything else in food and supplements, the source and quality and nature of the product is a huge determinant when it comes to sorting out its effects.
Grass-fed meat isn't the same as ballpark hot dogs- and "soy isolate" isn't the same thing as fermented miso. In an era when we tend to reduce complex issues to manageable sound bites ("soy is good" "soy is bad") it's good to remember that all soy products are not created equal.



Dr. Bowden, thanks for another honest look at a popular nutrition issue. I appreciate it whenever you acknowledge that nutritional science is not perfect and not free from the effects of pre-formed bias. Your approach of bringing forth current research and examining it in the light of your education and personal research/experience is why I continue to follow your blog despite the plethora of nutrition commentators out there. Keep up the good work.
you are very kind. Thank you
jb
"Like everything else in food and supplements, the source and quality and nature of the product is a huge determinant when it comes to sorting out its effects."
Well said! The books I have been reading, like "in defense of food" point so strongly to this. I too had read of soy problems, with a whole book, and also the good reports. One of the things I thought about was the genetically modified aspect. So must of the stuff we use in the West, especially the processed kind, is modified in this way. It could well be the the factor, you cannot mess with nature like this, it's very complex, they just don't know what they are doing to the food.
I am still surprised that no one really has "gotten it" concerning soy in America. Dr. Bowden, thank you for continuing to make it know to all about the "real" issue of soy. And you are right, all soy is not created equal.
I am still surprised that no one "gets it" concerning soy in America. I won't even go into what it does to men, in general, but the simple fact that soy continues to get a free pass in the nutritional world amazes me. Thank you Dr. Bowden for once again bringing the truth to so many of us.
I do a lot of research on nutrition and I was always ANTI soy myself because of the quality concerns. .
thanks for the insight i will read some more on this topic :-)
great newsletter, i like it!
nice one Johnny!
I would really like to get some perspective on lactose free products like Smart Balance lactose free milk and Lactaid brand cheese and cottage cheese. I stopped dairy 10 years ago and never felt better and I've avoided over-doing soy, but I don't really know anything about the lactose free products I consume. Thanks.
Dr Jonny I eat Whole Soybean Pasta from Nutri Kitchen because it is gluten free (celiac), high fiber, high protein and low in net carbs (Atkins). Would this be considered a good soy because it is made with whole non-gmo soybeans? Aside from wheat free tamari this is the only soy I eat.
Thanks
So what about soy protein powders - what is you take on them for weight training men & women?
Thanks
I am not sure this posted before. I would love perspective on lactose free products like Smart Balance lactose free milk and lactaid cheese and cottage cheese. I do not do dairy and I don't over-do soy, so the lactose free products are important to me. Yet I don't really know much about them.
I don't know much about them. I do know that many people who can't tolerate lactose do ok on lactose-free products, but i don't think this addresses the other components in factory farmed dairy like the hormones and antibiotics. But my "test" is this: if you feel good and have good energy and no symptoms with a food in your diet, why fix what's not broken?
warmly
jb
Josh-
One or two servings of soy protein isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's far from my favorite protein powder, especially for men and especially for weight training. I'd use whey- the two on my website, PaleoMeal and Whey Cool are outstanding and there are others around as well.
best
jb
Dr Jonny I eat Whole Soybean Pasta from Nutri Kitchen because it is gluten free (celiac), high fiber, high protein and low in net carbs (Atkins). Would this be considered a good soy because it is made with whole non-gmo soybeans? Aside from wheat free tamari this is the only soy I eat.
Thanks
i think it would be fine! Enjoy!
jb
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